Longhorn M7.2 Bits Coming to MSDN Subscribers


In case you've heard the rumors about a new drop of Longhorn coming to WinHEC attendees, you've heard right. The Milestone 7.2 (M7.2) drop of Longhorn will be given to WinHEC attendees this week and will be available to MSDN Subscribers for download RSN*. The plan is to provide regular LH Milestone drops to the community as we have them, regardless of whether they really provide more functionality/stability or not. That way, we keep you guys in synch with what we're doing and you can give us more relevant feedback.

In M7.2, the big deal is the addition of 3D support in Avalon, including declarative support in XAML. There are better things coming in 3D (as there are in the whole of Longhorn), but this is the initial set of functionality and we'd love to know what you think.

To set your expectations properly, WinHEC attendees and MSDN Subscribers will have access to the M7.2 OS and SDK bits, but will not have access to any matching Visual Studio bits. Neither the PDC Visual Studio installation nor the latest Visual Studio 2005 community drop nor even the upcoming Visual Studio 2005 beta will install or run properly on M7.2 Longhorn. We're hoping for future LH Milestone drops to include the matching Visual Studio bits, but this one doesn't. Luckily, MSBuild is included along with the compilers, so you can still build LH code under M7.2 like the pioneers did when they were blazing the Oregon Trail. It'll put hair on your chest and build strong bones and teeth.

* RSN == Real Soon Now

Comment Feed 16 comments on this post

Jason Nadal:

Does (MSDN Subscription == Universal only), or will I be able to download with my Enterprise subscription?

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 9:28 AM

Daniel Pratt:

In a way I'm happy about VS.NET not being included in the first go-around. For me, downloading the NGWS SDK and playing around with the command-line tools (and Notepad!) was a lot of fun, as well as a good learning experience.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 9:37 AM

Chris Sells:

Jason, any MSDN Subscriber will have access to the M7.2 bits, not just Universal Subscribers.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 9:40 AM

Jeff Clark:

Is there any problem developing on an "old" version of Longhorn and running our compiled application on the "new" version of Longhorn? (Aside from the fact that it forces you into prinf debugging.)

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 10:15 AM

Chris Sells:

I sure that you'll have to at least recompile and since the Avalon namespace changes (at least), they'll be code changes, too.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 10:22 AM

Argun Tekant:

OK, I can live without the IDE, but I can't live without a good editor. At the PDC, some speakers were using a fancy editor (not emacs) that even did autocomplete. Anybody know or remember what it was?

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 11:33 AM

Kevin Daly:

Actually, that reminds me of something that Longhorn *really* needs: An "Open Command Window Here" or even better "Open Longhorn SDK Command Window Here" powertoy to enable people to cut down on the typing when using MSBuild. Or rather, to enable them to cut down on the typing *before* they can use MSBuild.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 12:54 PM

Rick Childress:


also, you can always try this

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\Command Line From &Here\command]
@="cmd.exe chdir %1"

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 1:06 PM

Chris Sells:

I believe ChrisAn was a SlickEdit fan.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 4:15 PM


Does this apply for programming students on MSDNAA as well? I know our CompSci department gives us academic MSDN subscriptions to download Visual Studio and Windows, but I don't see anything with regard to this on our site.

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 5:17 PM

Rob Relyea [msft]:

From an internal source:
"We provided the PDC build to all subscribers (including MSDNAA members), and we plan to provide the WinHEC to all subscribers as well."

Wednesday, May 5, 2004, 5:53 PM

Meir Pletinsky:

Do anybody know whether this new drop will include GUI SDK debugger (DbgCLR.exe)? I did not find one on PDC build.

Thursday, May 6, 2004, 6:38 AM


Where is the SDK download to install into the M7.2 environment? I'm assuming a separate setup.exe or MSI file, but cannot find one at the Longhorn SDK site nor on MSDN Subscriber Downloads. There's Driver Kit (LDK) download, but not an SDK download--that I can find anyway. Thanks.

Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:49 PM

Chris Sells:

It's not quite up yet. Sorry for the delay. Give it another day or two.

Thursday, May 6, 2004, 8:11 PM


They say patience is a virtue...no worries. Perhaps you can post when it's there. Thanks, Chris.

Friday, May 7, 2004, 8:22 AM

Chris Sells:

It's up now.

Tuesday, May 11, 2004, 8:43 AM

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