Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 5:21 PM in The Spout
Please don't run apps in the background on my WP7 phone!
When I was but a wee lad, I learned that when it came to my computer, I was often going to be waiting on something, whether it was the CPU, the IO or the memory. Now that I'm all grown up and spending a great deal of time on handheld mobile devices, I've discovered a whole new thing I'm waiting on: charging the battery.
In the bad old days of DOS, I spent a disturbing amount of time working on my autoexec.bat and config.sys files to optimize the loading of drivers and TSRs (DOS programs that run in the background for you whippersnappers). Now, instead of optimizing for memory usage on my PC, I spend my time optimizing for power consumption on my phone, e.g. turning off 3G and Bluetooth when I don't need them, turning down the polling frequency on my SMTP mail accounts and spreading power adapters everywhere in my world where I sit for more than 5 minutes. The single most important feature on my phone is that's it's on and the way power is managed on my iPhone means that this is often not the case. Sometimes I pine for my Windows Mobile Dash for just that reason; it ran for days instead of hours.
And as bad as this power situation is, it would be even worse if my phone ran more than one app at a time. I don't worry about random apps from the AppStore using too much memory or crashing; I worry about them eating my battery and killing my iPhone in the middle of a route to somewhere I've never been. By not allowing background apps to run, Apple is trying to do the right thing but (although my battery life still sucks). I don’t have personal experience with Google phones, but since they do allow background apps to run, I have to imagine battery life is an even bigger problem.
So, when I see people lobbying for background apps on the new Windows Phone 7 Series, all I can say is, you don't want it. What you want is for work to go on in the background for you without the cost in power.
Oh, I want to listen to my MP3s or Pandora while I answer my email like everyone else, but I don't want every financial/IM/email/social/sports app I download sucking down my battery life because it feels itself to be more important than everything else on my phone. I want those apps to notify me when something I care about happens but I don't want the processing to discover such events to happen on my phone - I want the processing to happen in the cloud.
You may recall my piece about how important storage in the cloud is for moble devices. Let's let somebody else scale and manage the storage so we can leverage it. In the same way, we want to leverage CPU and power in the cloud, saving local resources for cool graphics, twitch games and streaming my "Pink" channel.
Of course, if we're going to push the processing to the cloud, I'm going to need an efficient and easy way to write my WP7 apps to be notified so I can do the actual processing that needs to happen on the phone. And that all needs to happen while I'm navigating and playing my bad girls party mix.
I'm saving my WP7 phone battery for important things after all.
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Shawn Wildermuth:
Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 5:57 PM
Kent Sharkey:
Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 6:43 PM
boyd:
Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 8:33 PM
Dan:
Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 8:52 PM
Jason Fransella:
Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010, 9:06 PM
AlSki:
Last night I went for a run again, I've just started and the app that tracks this for me is showing some great trends, but last nights data is completely corrupted, because I took a call in the middle and switched to email find some info. My Run has a whole in the middle of it just becasue it didn't get recorded.
If you don't want multiple apps running, fine, kill them off. But please don't stop me having the choice!
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 2:19 AM
Ray:
I see no reason why Win mobile 7 shouldn't be able to do the same thing. Nor do I really understand why the Iphone's battery life is so poor by comparison - it's not as though it's doing more.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 2:46 AM
Eduardo:
You describe *your world*. I'm almost all day in the office, and the phone is in the dock, consuming no battery, but the dumb iPhone force me to quit LastFM to reply a SMS. Just dumb in 2010.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 3:18 AM
James:
I agree that better battery tech should be the goal. While it may take a while, in the meantime an OS that allows a user to properly specify what may and what may not run in the background would work for me. E.g. I want Spotify to run in the background while checking email - but most other apps should disappear. However, I should be able to decide - not the manufacturer. Out of the box - iPhone like behaviour would be fine, as long as it can be fine tuned.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 5:56 AM
Chris:
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 6:52 AM
Jeff Johnson:
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 7:20 AM
Vance Hallman:
Put out two versions. Let the market decide. As technology improves you will see the cost and power consumption variables drop to where the market shifts to the high end.
Just don't tie down the power users from the beginning. You will lose them to other OS'es.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 8:34 AM
Thomas:
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 8:52 AM
Jesse Liberty:
The cloud is clearly the right long term solution to a lot of mobile issues, but it is (fatally?) unable to guarantee its availability.
The most important characteristic of my phone is that I *always* have it with me; if a vital part of it is only available when I have signal... I think I'm worse off than if it is only available when my battery is charged.
As an aside, my short-term wish is for a phone with easily swappable rechargeable batteries that can be rejuvenated in sets, and not necessarily in the phone.
While we're at it, can I please have every USB wire fit every USB device. Is that really so bloody difficult?
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 10:42 AM
Jim Wilson:
Those apps that need to run in the background specifically request that they be allowed to do so.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
Wayne:
The iPhone is not your competion, Android is. I just wrote this response while running other tasks on my Droid. No, I am not having any power or battery issues.
Thursday, Mar 4, 2010, 1:32 PM
Jeff Key:
I've never owned or wanted a Windows Mobile phone, but was really excited about 7 Series and had just assumed that it would perform true multitasking. This is unfortunate news.
From my naive point of view, there seems to be two camps: Those that use their phones like phones(!), where battery utilization is paramount, and others that use them like computers and know that they have to watch their battery use. Microsoft would do well to consider having two "modes" for their 7 Series phones: One in which only certain applications are allowed to run in the background (it sounds like this is how the iPhone works) and another where it's open season and you can run whatever the heck you want because you're a geek and can fiddle w/the phones' config.sys and the like.
By the time Series 7 phones are released later this year, Verizon will have convinced even more folks that multitasking is a requirement -- not a nice-to-have. People happy with iPhone-style tasking will probably stick with iPhones. Why would they switch? People that need multitasking will stick with Android.
The Zune HD is a great product that was introduced way too late in the game. I hope MSFT doesn't make the same mistake w/the Series 7 phone, for a very selfish reason: I don't want to have to carry around two devices anymore! (Another option: Put Zune software on Android...which I expect right around the time Ballmer defects to Google.)
Friday, Mar 5, 2010, 8:34 AM
Chris Sells:
Friday, Mar 5, 2010, 8:47 AM
Xian:
After all, the OS will run background processes regardless.
Chris, the main problems i have with no multitasking is speed and persistence. Say i suddenly get a call on my iPhone and get kicked out of an app/game. After the call i have to wait for the app to reload (which isn't necessarily quick) and hope to god it managed to save it's state.
I may have lost work or certainly progress in a game, and it's frustrating.
It the phone was quick enough to reload the app/game within a second, without losing state then i wouldn't care so much.
But as for some example scenarios, what if i was using TomTom to navigate and got a call? I get kicked out of the app and it takes a while to reload, refind a GPS signal, etc.
Or what if i was playing a game but needed to check an email, or quickly look up directions to a place?
What if i was using a banking app and needed to look up some notes with a different app, on the cloud?
Just like with early PC's the restraints are hardware, and given the popularity of smart phones, it's going to improve quickly. What's the point of limiting the OS?
Friday, Mar 5, 2010, 8:30 PM
Sean Cross:
I had an iPhone for a year. I had to jailbreak it to get multitasking and in the end I went back to windows mobile.
If wp7 doesn't support multitasking, I am going to android.
Friday, Mar 5, 2010, 11:44 PM
Brent Stewart:
Most of the apps that we are familiar with seem to work fine with no background support because they were designed and built knowing that they could not run in the background. I think that there is a whole genre of applications that have not been developed because of this limitation.
Having options is good for all of us.
Monday, Mar 8, 2010, 6:34 AM
Jim Wilson:
Being able to keep a process running in the background that gathers and reports GPS location opens up a load of possible application scenarios.
Oh and there's also the whole 3rd-party music scene. It seems completely reasonable to want to listen to music from Pandora while also browsing the web ... something that doesn't work in iPhone.
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Being able to keep a process running in the background that gathers and reports GPS location opens up a load of possible application scenarios.
Oh and there's also the whole 3rd-party music scene. It seems completely reasonable to want to listen to music from Pandora while also browsing the web ... something that doesn't work in iPhone.
Friday, Nov 19, 2010, 9:46 PM



