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10 Better Questions for Don Box

In a recent interview of Don Box by Mary Jo Foley, I expressed my disappointment over the dullest of both the questions and the answers. Uncharacteristically ducking criticism, Don provided details of my frequent stays at his house suggesting an unhealthy love of his pets (which I love the normal amount, I promise). While this was amusing, it doesn't give anyone any more information than Mary Jo's interview did.

Anyway, talking about it on the phone just now, Don agreed with me that the interview turned out much less interesting than he intended and promised to make amends. Specifically, he said, "Chris, send me 10 questions and I'll answer them." So, here's your chance. Reply to this post with the hardest hitting, most revealing questions and I'll pick the best 10 to send along to Don. Don't hold back -- all questions are fair, although I'll focus first on Indigo, then Longhorn, then technology in general before getting to Don's own love of his pets (for example). Here're some questions to seed your thinking:

-How does the version of Indigo shipping with Longhorn relate to what's currently being used internally at MS? How does it relate to what you actually plan on shipping?

-What should an ASP.NET or WSE programmer *really* do today to prepare for Indigo?

-What's the biggest surprise about the inner workings at MS?

-If you could do one thing to change MS, what would it be?

-If you could do one thing to change the IT industry, what would it be?

-How can ISVs be successful in the current IT industry?

-What's the next big thing that'll change the IT industry?

-What do you think is cool that doesn't get enough attention?

-Has family scrutiny caused you to stop dressing your pugs in clown suits before expressing your love for them?

Chris Sells , Friday, December 26, 2003 3:26 PM

My Question:

What are the practical ways that developers should use in architecting their systems in order to be ready for SOA and Indigo ?

Udi Dahan, Friday, December 26, 2003 3:32 PM

What is your position on REST and does it play a role in INDIGO?

Any questions regarding ISVs would be interesting.

Dave Bettin, Friday, December 26, 2003 3:55 PM

With all the connection/transport technology, ease of use and rapid development in terms of creating applications, and easy of exposing of data that Microsoft are providing where do you see the role of a software developer going?
Are we resigned to connecting pre built components together, relying on Microsoft to provide all our underlying architecture and frameworks?

While I appreciate what Microsoft are providng, and support the idea of a SOA underpinning their new OS and tools (and in fact have been harping on about it at our own seminars in 2003) it makes me wonder where a lot of Windows Developer jobs are going. As we make it easier and easier to create complex applications and systems how do we maintain our market worth and indeed our jobs as more and more of the magic that today we get paid to craft is provided for free by Microsoft?

Ian, Friday, December 26, 2003 4:47 PM

My questions are:

1. With Indigo, it looks like we (or tools) have to write more lines of code/config than we have today to do the same thing. Sure, transacted and reliable messaging needs less than today, but I found current easier things more difficult. Can you help me to understand the increased complexity?

2. What do you think is the best part in which XML related specs? What is the worst? Please be specific.

Thanks,

Fumiaki Yoshimatsu, Friday, December 26, 2003 5:13 PM

I know that this is sort of 'cliche questions' but anyway I like to hear Don's answers ...

- what is must have qualities for someone to work in your team

- what would be your advice to experienced programmer/architect to be even better

thanks.

Martin, Friday, December 26, 2003 6:04 PM

What other technology or product (that really tickles you) would you be working on, if (broadly speaking) XML did not exist?

Jonathan, Friday, December 26, 2003 6:08 PM

Where do you stand on the outsourcing of American white collar(tech in particular) jobs to places such as India?

TJ, Friday, December 26, 2003 7:40 PM

Explain in as much detail as possible, what parts of COM+ Enterprise Services and MSMQ will remain native and which parts will go managed code when Longhorn arrives. Will there be a 100% managed code transaction server...ditto queue server?

David Cornelson, Friday, December 26, 2003 7:56 PM

why have we not seen proposals for using "SOAP" over SIP (the backbone protocol of MS RTC and 3GPP phones - http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/sip-charter.html )

Mark Zeren, Saturday, December 27, 2003 4:30 AM

Does Microsoft's patent licensing help to fillip Microsoft's monopoly?

RichB, Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:14 PM

"The guiding principle behind SOAP is to "first invent no new technology."

Is this still true today? How much SOAP traffic do you expect which uses only SOAP information in it's header?

RichB, Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:18 PM

What is the subject of your latest (in progress) book?

RichB, Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:19 PM

Not sure why everyone is asking their own questions here, but since all the cool kids are doing it...

1. It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

2. You’ve got a little boy. He shows you his butterfly collection plus the killing jar. What do you do?

3. You’re watching television. Suddenly you realize there’s a wasp crawling on your arm.

4. You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, Don, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back, Don. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that, Don?

5. Describe in single words, only the good things that come into your mind. About your mother.

Shannon J Hager, Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:52 AM

Firstly, I would really like to hear Don's responses to those "cliche" questions from Martin's post. Then I'd like to add the following questions:

(1) I heard the story at the PDC (which seemed like Don really held back from what his true feelings were) and so I'll ask the question again. With Indigo, what is the future (honestly) of .NET Remoting and MSMQ? Will their concepts, not necessarily their classes, be rolled into the Indigo stack?

(2) What involvement, if any, do you have in the design and development of the ShadowFax reference architecture being created by Microsoft's PAG team?

(3) How can a long-time Microsoft technology practioner and Don Box "follower" get an opportunity to sit in on one of those Indigo design reviews? I bet one could learn a lot just by listening to some of the best in the industry debate on API. And hopefully, they'd welcome an opinion or two?

http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/weblog/lamont_harrington

Lamont Harrington, Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:10 PM

I totally agree my Box interview was DULL! Way duller than the man himself. I wanted to do a face-to-face interview; but Don was too busy at the PDC. Also, my interview responses had to go thru the PR channels. So I am sure Don self-censored a bit. (He also seemed to be more than a bit rushed in meeting my deadline in answering the questions I submitted.) I will be interested to see how he answers some of these questions here... MJF

Mary Jo Foley, Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:19 PM

In Mary Jo's defense, the dullness had nothing to do with her - she gave me fine questions to work with - I just didn't have time to be interesting, controversial, or even witty and still stay within MJF's deadline.

Also, the PR folks at wag-ed didn't edit me at all - they were just the go-between on the email trail.

The lack of excitement was 100% Don (or lack thereof).

DB

Don Box, Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:45 PM

My questions are at http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=91b63e23-5e72-4190-b17c-2718183beef6

kpako@yahoo.com (Dare Obasanjo), Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:43 PM

Don:

You wrote...
An IBM ThinkPad with a Windows key.
My friends tell me that Windows-D gets you back your desktop. Because I use a thinkpad, I need to keep that stupid tray icon around in order to quickly minimize all top-level windows. I also hear that Windows-R is equivalent to Start->Run. Alas, 98% of my Windows experience is coloured by a keyboard that's still sore over the OS/2 debacle.

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Buzz Bruggeman , Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:30 PM

A big question looming over the future direction of SOAP/Indigo is how binary attachments are handled. You touched on this issue in the PDC (DIME is dead, but use it for now) but there was no clear direction for the future. A solid binary transfer of large documents in an efficient streaming manner seems almost top priority for developers and would be the icing on the cake, especially when available on PocketPC. Is MTOM MS's desired direction? How could efficient streaming be achieved for Indigo in ASP.NET (which buffers all in memrory) without writing ISAPI?

Marshall Brooke, Monday, December 29, 2003 1:31 AM

- How do you see a typical n-tier architecture application (if such a thing exists) changing to accomodate SOA/Indigo? How will such an application be better for using Indigo?

- To what extent to you envisage Indigo being used between tiers in such an application? Do the contracts within such an application need to be as rigid as those that are externally published by it?

James Higgs, Monday, December 29, 2003 3:02 AM

1. How do you see the Semantic Web evolving?
2. Why is there no significant Microsoft interest in Grid technologies?

shall, Monday, December 29, 2003 7:32 AM

Here is my question:

Since Longhorn is a long way off, is there a chance of getting some of the Indigo stack released sooner? Perhaps a release that is similar to the way WSE is released today?

Rob Cannon, Monday, December 29, 2003 8:00 AM


My questions are:

Who are the people at MS that are responsible for setting the ‘party line’ for certain technologies?

What is the relationship between architects and the people setting the party line?

For example, Avalon is all about “rich client applications that take advantage of the power of the PC”. In the PDC bits, rich client applications are actually desktop applications. The question is – is this an architect’s vision of the future of application development, or is this the company’s party line.

George Mladenov, Monday, December 29, 2003 1:45 PM

XAML - I don't get it. Why would anyone want to write 15k of XML to do something that can be done with 2k of cs code?

Len Weaver, Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:23 AM

Do you want to kill the Web? If so, what could be better than the Web?

Robert Scoble, Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:55 AM

If you were calling the shots at MSFT, would you offshore? Which operations would you consider first for the offshore locations?

Nathan H. Omukwenyi, Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:18 AM

I heard Gregor Hohpe recently gave a talk at Microsoft on his new book Enterprise Integration Patterns, which is all about messaging-related patterns.

Did you attend the talk, and if so what did you think of it? How do Gregor's ideas fit with the Indigo vision, and how do they differ?

Do you think Indigo might overshadow differing views on messaging (such as Gregor's) to the detriment of the industry?

Do you think Clemens would really be happy taking the red pill, or would his SOA/messaging vision and/or rapid development style have to be changed or reigned in too much?

Was it a controversial decision to turn HTTP into an optional messaging transport? Do you feel that HTTP is still leaving too much of a legacy in transport-neutral messaging architecture?

Oran, Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:46 AM

How hard was it to get Rory Blyth to stand still while you planted a smooch on him?

Were there tranquilizing narcotics or unseen restraining devices involved?

Have you noticed any unusual itching or unexplained numbness since the kiss?

rick, Tuesday, December 30, 2003 10:59 AM

In the song "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" by the Police, Sting sings:

"I resolve to call her up a thousand times a day
And ask her if she'll marry me in some old fashioned way"

Don, do you think he meant he wanted to marry her in an old fashion way, or did he really mean he wanted to pop the question itself in an old fashion way?

It's one of life's big mysteries, hey!

The Anti-Rory, Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:44 PM

My two questions:

Any advice for an ISV suddenly faced with the prospect of competing head-on with newly released Microsoft products?

Also:
While everyone talks about how wonderful web and SOA systems are, what people are still making money on are good old thick-client systems. Comments?

Christian Mogensen, Friday, January 02, 2004 1:40 PM

Chris,

Could you please ask Don how he felt doing the keynote at the recent PDC. Does he have any presentation tips to pass on to mere mortals?

Matt Smith, Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:57 PM

How does PAG's Shadowfax reference implementation overlap with Indigo? It looks like it's trying to solve the same exact problems, but in a more PAG-like way (using App Blocks, etc.).

It also looks like Shadowfax is imitating Indigo's architecture using currently released technologies.

Basically, how does Shadowfax's vision compare to Indigo's vision of SOAs?

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